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    <description>Talking shop with 100 people about their work and associated craft — exploring what they actually do, why they do it that way, and what changed along the way. Host Skipper Chong Warson sits down with folks to understand what's going on in their world right now. Season two explored product, design, and facilitation. The third season follows people actively building things right now.
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New episodes every few weeks. Part of How This Works co.
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  <title>Thejus Chakravarthy</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Skipper chats with Thejus Chakravarthy about how we can manifest change, both from a point-of-view of learning/work as well as in our personal lives</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;This show with Thejus Chakravarthy ranges over a wide variety of topics but along the way we find out about his professional and life experiences in making change in the world.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We start with his origins crowning in a cab in Mumbai, India, the ease in which his right shoulder dislocates after a show once upon a time with his hardcore band Lovers and Killers, the joy of Royal Farm (RoFo) fried chicken, and the brilliance of a 'hot now' Krispy Kreme donut. Skipper and Thejus also get into his two books, &lt;a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rb4cYn4mEMcXxuMApiVZAVRe-aav6lyL/view?usp=sharing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Brushfire&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EXi1vET4XcgFQp3Nlrjfx-Z4g80Qi4ki/view?usp=sharing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Flywheel and The Lever&lt;/a&gt; where they get into some of the foundational details, including Henry Ford's creation of the 40 hour workweek, the Stanford prison experiment done by Dr. Philip Zimbardo, Stanley Milgram's experiments on obedience to authority figures, the notion of 'it's always the system', the Ben Franklin effect, Thejus' experience creating an instructional system out of open source technologies, Donella Meadows' essay on leverage points, and Gamergate. See if you can pick out the Seth Godin namedrop.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Interesting note about Thejus' previous band — Lovers and Killers, then Caestles, and now Queen Wolf as well as a second band called Infinite Pizza. While he formally left that band about five years ago, they're still making music and he helps with production and occasionally contributes. Here's an audio family tree/playlist:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;"An Hour Left of Forever" from Lovers &amp;amp; Killers' 2006 album &lt;em&gt;Tropic of Cancer&lt;/em&gt; (&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/GRSHueeGhUE" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/017VkXSXh0xSMHeSEovhx3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;"William Blake" from Caestles' 2010 album &lt;em&gt;A Treatise of Human Combustion&lt;/em&gt; (&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/_PTS_G0Km6s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/7Hl0Z57U2QTYNeo3eKbviW?si=gUYlELV_SGSTpoGhyd8S5g" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Spotify&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Infinite Pizza at the Windup Space in Baltimore on July 13, 2014 (&lt;a href="https://youtu.be/ZlcO41HLTHk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://queenwolf.bandcamp.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Queen Wolf&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://infinitepizza.bandcamp.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Infinite Pizza&lt;/a&gt; are both on Bandcamp, if you want to indulge deeper.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;After the outro music, you can hear Skipper spring on Thejus a request to read the opening bit from "Brushfire". &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This episode was edited and mastered by Troy Lococo.  Special Guest: Thejus Chakravarthy.&lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>This show with Thejus Chakravarthy ranges over a wide variety of topics but along the way we find out about his professional and life experiences in making change in the world.</p>

<p>We start with his origins crowning in a cab in Mumbai, India, the ease in which his right shoulder dislocates after a show once upon a time with his hardcore band Lovers and Killers, the joy of Royal Farm (RoFo) fried chicken, and the brilliance of a &#39;hot now&#39; Krispy Kreme donut. Skipper and Thejus also get into his two books, <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rb4cYn4mEMcXxuMApiVZAVRe-aav6lyL/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow">Brushfire</a> and <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EXi1vET4XcgFQp3Nlrjfx-Z4g80Qi4ki/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow">The Flywheel and The Lever</a> where they get into some of the foundational details, including Henry Ford&#39;s creation of the 40 hour workweek, the Stanford prison experiment done by Dr. Philip Zimbardo, Stanley Milgram&#39;s experiments on obedience to authority figures, the notion of &#39;it&#39;s always the system&#39;, the Ben Franklin effect, Thejus&#39; experience creating an instructional system out of open source technologies, Donella Meadows&#39; essay on leverage points, and Gamergate. See if you can pick out the Seth Godin namedrop.</p>

<p>Interesting note about Thejus&#39; previous band — Lovers and Killers, then Caestles, and now Queen Wolf as well as a second band called Infinite Pizza. While he formally left that band about five years ago, they&#39;re still making music and he helps with production and occasionally contributes. Here&#39;s an audio family tree/playlist:</p>

<ul>
<li>&quot;An Hour Left of Forever&quot; from Lovers &amp; Killers&#39; 2006 album <em>Tropic of Cancer</em> (<a href="https://youtu.be/GRSHueeGhUE" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/017VkXSXh0xSMHeSEovhx3" rel="nofollow">Spotify</a>)</li>
<li>&quot;William Blake&quot; from Caestles&#39; 2010 album <em>A Treatise of Human Combustion</em> (<a href="https://youtu.be/_PTS_G0Km6s" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/7Hl0Z57U2QTYNeo3eKbviW?si=gUYlELV_SGSTpoGhyd8S5g" rel="nofollow">Spotify</a>)</li>
<li>Infinite Pizza at the Windup Space in Baltimore on July 13, 2014 (<a href="https://youtu.be/ZlcO41HLTHk" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="https://queenwolf.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow">Queen Wolf</a> and <a href="https://infinitepizza.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow">Infinite Pizza</a> are both on Bandcamp, if you want to indulge deeper.</p>

<p>After the outro music, you can hear Skipper spring on Thejus a request to read the opening bit from &quot;Brushfire&quot;. </p>

<p>This episode was edited and mastered by Troy Lococo. </p><p>Special Guest: Thejus Chakravarthy.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Ford factory workers get 40-hour week on May 1, 1926" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/ford-factory-workers-get-40-hour-week">Ford factory workers get 40-hour week on May 1, 1926</a></li><li><a title="Books by Sir Terry Pratchett" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.terrypratchettbooks.com/books/">Books by Sir Terry Pratchett</a></li><li><a title="Royal Farms best fried chicken" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.royalfarms.com/best-chicken">Royal Farms best fried chicken</a></li><li><a title="Sugata Mitra&#39;s TED talk on how kids can teach themselves" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_kids_can_teach_themselves">Sugata Mitra's TED talk on how kids can teach themselves</a></li><li><a title="Thejus&#39; book &quot;Brushfire&quot;" rel="nofollow" href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rb4cYn4mEMcXxuMApiVZAVRe-aav6lyL/view?usp=sharing">Thejus' book "Brushfire"</a></li><li><a title="The official Stanford Prison Experiment website" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.prisonexp.org">The official Stanford Prison Experiment website</a></li><li><a title="Milgram experiment" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment">Milgram experiment</a></li><li><a title="Hot Signage Now: Krispy Kreme in Times Square" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.signshop.com/dimensional/architectural/hot-signage-krispy-kreme-times-square/">Hot Signage Now: Krispy Kreme in Times Square</a></li><li><a title="The Benjamin Franklin Effect" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/02/20/the-benjamin-franklin-effect-mcraney/">The Benjamin Franklin Effect</a></li><li><a title="Leverage Points: Places to Intervene in a System by Donella Meadows" rel="nofollow" href="http://donellameadows.org/archives/leverage-points-places-to-intervene-in-a-system/">Leverage Points: Places to Intervene in a System by Donella Meadows</a></li><li><a title="Seth Godin&#39;s TED talk about the subject of his book, &quot;Tribes: We Need You to Lead Us&quot;" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/seth_godin_the_tribes_we_lead">Seth Godin's TED talk about the subject of his book, "Tribes: We Need You to Lead Us"</a></li><li><a title="Seth Godin&#39;s book, Tribes" rel="nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/a/9976/9781591842330">Seth Godin's book, Tribes</a></li><li><a title="Thejus&#39; book &quot;The Flywheel and The Lever&quot;" rel="nofollow" href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EXi1vET4XcgFQp3Nlrjfx-Z4g80Qi4ki/view?usp=sharing">Thejus' book "The Flywheel and The Lever"</a></li><li><a title="Tim Ferriss" rel="nofollow" href="https://tim.blog">Tim Ferriss</a></li><li><a title="What Is Gamergate, and Why? An Explainer for Non-Geeks" rel="nofollow" href="https://gawker.com/what-is-gamergate-and-why-an-explainer-for-non-geeks-1642909080">What Is Gamergate, and Why? An Explainer for Non-Geeks</a></li><li><a title="Thejus&#39; work site, hircinous.com" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.hircinous.com">Thejus' work site, hircinous.com</a></li><li><a title="Intro and outro song: &quot;Zombie Nation&quot; by Jose Travieso" rel="nofollow" href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Jose_Travieso/Free_Music_Sampler_-_FreeMixter">Intro and outro song: "Zombie Nation" by Jose Travieso</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This show with Thejus Chakravarthy ranges over a wide variety of topics but along the way we find out about his professional and life experiences in making change in the world.</p>

<p>We start with his origins crowning in a cab in Mumbai, India, the ease in which his right shoulder dislocates after a show once upon a time with his hardcore band Lovers and Killers, the joy of Royal Farm (RoFo) fried chicken, and the brilliance of a &#39;hot now&#39; Krispy Kreme donut. Skipper and Thejus also get into his two books, <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rb4cYn4mEMcXxuMApiVZAVRe-aav6lyL/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow">Brushfire</a> and <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EXi1vET4XcgFQp3Nlrjfx-Z4g80Qi4ki/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow">The Flywheel and The Lever</a> where they get into some of the foundational details, including Henry Ford&#39;s creation of the 40 hour workweek, the Stanford prison experiment done by Dr. Philip Zimbardo, Stanley Milgram&#39;s experiments on obedience to authority figures, the notion of &#39;it&#39;s always the system&#39;, the Ben Franklin effect, Thejus&#39; experience creating an instructional system out of open source technologies, Donella Meadows&#39; essay on leverage points, and Gamergate. See if you can pick out the Seth Godin namedrop.</p>

<p>Interesting note about Thejus&#39; previous band — Lovers and Killers, then Caestles, and now Queen Wolf as well as a second band called Infinite Pizza. While he formally left that band about five years ago, they&#39;re still making music and he helps with production and occasionally contributes. Here&#39;s an audio family tree/playlist:</p>

<ul>
<li>&quot;An Hour Left of Forever&quot; from Lovers &amp; Killers&#39; 2006 album <em>Tropic of Cancer</em> (<a href="https://youtu.be/GRSHueeGhUE" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/017VkXSXh0xSMHeSEovhx3" rel="nofollow">Spotify</a>)</li>
<li>&quot;William Blake&quot; from Caestles&#39; 2010 album <em>A Treatise of Human Combustion</em> (<a href="https://youtu.be/_PTS_G0Km6s" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/7Hl0Z57U2QTYNeo3eKbviW?si=gUYlELV_SGSTpoGhyd8S5g" rel="nofollow">Spotify</a>)</li>
<li>Infinite Pizza at the Windup Space in Baltimore on July 13, 2014 (<a href="https://youtu.be/ZlcO41HLTHk" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="https://queenwolf.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow">Queen Wolf</a> and <a href="https://infinitepizza.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow">Infinite Pizza</a> are both on Bandcamp, if you want to indulge deeper.</p>

<p>After the outro music, you can hear Skipper spring on Thejus a request to read the opening bit from &quot;Brushfire&quot;. </p>

<p>This episode was edited and mastered by Troy Lococo. </p><p>Special Guest: Thejus Chakravarthy.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Ford factory workers get 40-hour week on May 1, 1926" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/ford-factory-workers-get-40-hour-week">Ford factory workers get 40-hour week on May 1, 1926</a></li><li><a title="Books by Sir Terry Pratchett" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.terrypratchettbooks.com/books/">Books by Sir Terry Pratchett</a></li><li><a title="Royal Farms best fried chicken" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.royalfarms.com/best-chicken">Royal Farms best fried chicken</a></li><li><a title="Sugata Mitra&#39;s TED talk on how kids can teach themselves" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_kids_can_teach_themselves">Sugata Mitra's TED talk on how kids can teach themselves</a></li><li><a title="Thejus&#39; book &quot;Brushfire&quot;" rel="nofollow" href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rb4cYn4mEMcXxuMApiVZAVRe-aav6lyL/view?usp=sharing">Thejus' book "Brushfire"</a></li><li><a title="The official Stanford Prison Experiment website" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.prisonexp.org">The official Stanford Prison Experiment website</a></li><li><a title="Milgram experiment" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment">Milgram experiment</a></li><li><a title="Hot Signage Now: Krispy Kreme in Times Square" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.signshop.com/dimensional/architectural/hot-signage-krispy-kreme-times-square/">Hot Signage Now: Krispy Kreme in Times Square</a></li><li><a title="The Benjamin Franklin Effect" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/02/20/the-benjamin-franklin-effect-mcraney/">The Benjamin Franklin Effect</a></li><li><a title="Leverage Points: Places to Intervene in a System by Donella Meadows" rel="nofollow" href="http://donellameadows.org/archives/leverage-points-places-to-intervene-in-a-system/">Leverage Points: Places to Intervene in a System by Donella Meadows</a></li><li><a title="Seth Godin&#39;s TED talk about the subject of his book, &quot;Tribes: We Need You to Lead Us&quot;" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/seth_godin_the_tribes_we_lead">Seth Godin's TED talk about the subject of his book, "Tribes: We Need You to Lead Us"</a></li><li><a title="Seth Godin&#39;s book, Tribes" rel="nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/a/9976/9781591842330">Seth Godin's book, Tribes</a></li><li><a title="Thejus&#39; book &quot;The Flywheel and The Lever&quot;" rel="nofollow" href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EXi1vET4XcgFQp3Nlrjfx-Z4g80Qi4ki/view?usp=sharing">Thejus' book "The Flywheel and The Lever"</a></li><li><a title="Tim Ferriss" rel="nofollow" href="https://tim.blog">Tim Ferriss</a></li><li><a title="What Is Gamergate, and Why? An Explainer for Non-Geeks" rel="nofollow" href="https://gawker.com/what-is-gamergate-and-why-an-explainer-for-non-geeks-1642909080">What Is Gamergate, and Why? An Explainer for Non-Geeks</a></li><li><a title="Thejus&#39; work site, hircinous.com" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.hircinous.com">Thejus' work site, hircinous.com</a></li><li><a title="Intro and outro song: &quot;Zombie Nation&quot; by Jose Travieso" rel="nofollow" href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Jose_Travieso/Free_Music_Sampler_-_FreeMixter">Intro and outro song: "Zombie Nation" by Jose Travieso</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Stephanie Krivitzky</title>
  <link>https://www.howthisworks.show/008-stephanie-krivitzky</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2021 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Skipper chats with Stephanie Krivitzky about how she gets things done — in the context of being a creative director, designer, and a person in the world</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>59:39</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Stephanie Krivitzky, currently in New York City, talks to Skipper about how she gets things done, starting with family discussions around the dinner table and then into her current role as creative director at Misen, a cookware company.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The conversation hits so many points, starting with her frustration with baths, how the notion of logistics eventually fed into the concept of getting things done, how hustling and freelancing built her discipline, using your own motivations and demotiavtions as an aligning principle, how getting things done for other people is different than when you're working for yourself, thinking about the Eisenhower Matrix graph with its four quadrants of high/low impact and high/low effort to prioritize your work, what happens when you never do a thing you're supposed to (read: like Skipper's example of not being very good at flossing at night), to-do lists as part of the process of reflecting back on how something went, and how she thinks of her own to-do lists as little diaries.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/c/cf372a7e-810f-4eab-8a55-34456ccc0d58/ZmyOdm4L.jpg" alt="Stephanie Krivitzky list" title="An example of one of Stephanie's to-do lists"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Towards the end of the episode, Skipper mentions a card-based productivity system of which he couldn't recall the name. It's called &lt;a href="https://ugmonk.com/pages/analog" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Analog&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;After the outro music, you can hear Stephanie talk about her friend of 14 years already wanting to listen to this episode. 😃🎉&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This episode was edited and mastered by Troy Lococo.  Special Guest: Stephanie Krivitzky.&lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>Stephanie Krivitzky, currently in New York City, talks to Skipper about how she gets things done, starting with family discussions around the dinner table and then into her current role as creative director at Misen, a cookware company.</p>

<p>The conversation hits so many points, starting with her frustration with baths, how the notion of logistics eventually fed into the concept of getting things done, how hustling and freelancing built her discipline, using your own motivations and demotiavtions as an aligning principle, how getting things done for other people is different than when you&#39;re working for yourself, thinking about the Eisenhower Matrix graph with its four quadrants of high/low impact and high/low effort to prioritize your work, what happens when you never do a thing you&#39;re supposed to (read: like Skipper&#39;s example of not being very good at flossing at night), to-do lists as part of the process of reflecting back on how something went, and how she thinks of her own to-do lists as little diaries.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/c/cf372a7e-810f-4eab-8a55-34456ccc0d58/ZmyOdm4L.jpg" alt="Stephanie Krivitzky list" title="An example of one of Stephanie&#39;s to-do lists"></p>

<p>Towards the end of the episode, Skipper mentions a card-based productivity system of which he couldn&#39;t recall the name. It&#39;s called <a href="https://ugmonk.com/pages/analog" rel="nofollow">Analog</a>.</p>

<p>After the outro music, you can hear Stephanie talk about her friend of 14 years already wanting to listen to this episode. 😃🎉</p>

<p>This episode was edited and mastered by Troy Lococo. </p><p>Special Guest: Stephanie Krivitzky.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Misen cookware" rel="nofollow" href="https://misen.com">Misen cookware</a></li><li><a title="Eisenhower graph of impact/effort" rel="nofollow" href="https://thoughtbot.com/blog/impact-effort-matrices-they-re-awesome-and-you-can-too-title-in-progress#draw-your-matrix">Eisenhower graph of impact/effort</a></li><li><a title="The Myth Of Multitasking" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.npr.org/2013/05/10/182861382/the-myth-of-multitasking">The Myth Of Multitasking</a></li><li><a title="Cave Day" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.caveday.org/">Cave Day</a></li><li><a title="Monday" rel="nofollow" href="https://monday.com">Monday</a></li><li><a title="Bullet Journal" rel="nofollow" href="https://bulletjournal.com">Bullet Journal</a></li><li><a title="Analog" rel="nofollow" href="https://ugmonk.com/pages/analog">Analog</a></li><li><a title="Obligatory puppy picture" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CInq8euBxN6/">Obligatory puppy picture</a></li><li><a title="Stephanie Krivitzky" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.stephaniekrivitzky.com">Stephanie Krivitzky</a></li><li><a title="Intro and outro song: &quot;Zombie Nation&quot; by Jose Travieso" rel="nofollow" href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Jose_Travieso/Free_Music_Sampler_-_FreeMixter">Intro and outro song: "Zombie Nation" by Jose Travieso</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Stephanie Krivitzky, currently in New York City, talks to Skipper about how she gets things done, starting with family discussions around the dinner table and then into her current role as creative director at Misen, a cookware company.</p>

<p>The conversation hits so many points, starting with her frustration with baths, how the notion of logistics eventually fed into the concept of getting things done, how hustling and freelancing built her discipline, using your own motivations and demotiavtions as an aligning principle, how getting things done for other people is different than when you&#39;re working for yourself, thinking about the Eisenhower Matrix graph with its four quadrants of high/low impact and high/low effort to prioritize your work, what happens when you never do a thing you&#39;re supposed to (read: like Skipper&#39;s example of not being very good at flossing at night), to-do lists as part of the process of reflecting back on how something went, and how she thinks of her own to-do lists as little diaries.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/c/cf372a7e-810f-4eab-8a55-34456ccc0d58/ZmyOdm4L.jpg" alt="Stephanie Krivitzky list" title="An example of one of Stephanie&#39;s to-do lists"></p>

<p>Towards the end of the episode, Skipper mentions a card-based productivity system of which he couldn&#39;t recall the name. It&#39;s called <a href="https://ugmonk.com/pages/analog" rel="nofollow">Analog</a>.</p>

<p>After the outro music, you can hear Stephanie talk about her friend of 14 years already wanting to listen to this episode. 😃🎉</p>

<p>This episode was edited and mastered by Troy Lococo. </p><p>Special Guest: Stephanie Krivitzky.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Misen cookware" rel="nofollow" href="https://misen.com">Misen cookware</a></li><li><a title="Eisenhower graph of impact/effort" rel="nofollow" href="https://thoughtbot.com/blog/impact-effort-matrices-they-re-awesome-and-you-can-too-title-in-progress#draw-your-matrix">Eisenhower graph of impact/effort</a></li><li><a title="The Myth Of Multitasking" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.npr.org/2013/05/10/182861382/the-myth-of-multitasking">The Myth Of Multitasking</a></li><li><a title="Cave Day" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.caveday.org/">Cave Day</a></li><li><a title="Monday" rel="nofollow" href="https://monday.com">Monday</a></li><li><a title="Bullet Journal" rel="nofollow" href="https://bulletjournal.com">Bullet Journal</a></li><li><a title="Analog" rel="nofollow" href="https://ugmonk.com/pages/analog">Analog</a></li><li><a title="Obligatory puppy picture" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CInq8euBxN6/">Obligatory puppy picture</a></li><li><a title="Stephanie Krivitzky" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.stephaniekrivitzky.com">Stephanie Krivitzky</a></li><li><a title="Intro and outro song: &quot;Zombie Nation&quot; by Jose Travieso" rel="nofollow" href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Jose_Travieso/Free_Music_Sampler_-_FreeMixter">Intro and outro song: "Zombie Nation" by Jose Travieso</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Nicolai Lipscomb</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2021 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Skipper Chong Warson</author>
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  <itunes:author>Skipper Chong Warson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Skipper talks to Nicolai about being a chef, what the future holds for the art and science of cooking, as well as what he's doing during the pandemic</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>51:35</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Starting under mentorship with James Beard winner Barbara Lynch, Nicolai Lipscomb has chefed at some of the best restuarants in the world, full stop — Arzak, El Celler Can Roca, at Fundacion Alicia with scientists and nutritionists under the direction of Ferran Adria and Pere Castells, the list goes on and on. And so this conversation with Skipper Chong Warson ranges the globe, starting in Half Moon Bay, Calif. to bungee jumping outside Vancouver Island, British Columbia to working in high pressure kitchens in Boston, Mass.; San Sebastián, Spain; Girona, Spain; and back to northern Calif. again among other locations.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The topics range from talking about thrill seeking in motorcycle riding/bungee jumping, homemade Eggo waffles cooling on chopsticks, falling into and grinding through the ever challenging work of making and serving some of the most highly regarded food in the world while racing the clock and the swirling kitchen chaos, the requisite patience to not rush food, the secret to great paella, the importance of downtime in working as a chef, and the brain drain in running restuarants that's happening during COVID-19.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One thing that we learned is that restaurants are the number one employer in Calif. And working backwards from the idea that the golden state has 1/8 of the United States population and by some estimates the various 2020 shutdown orders will end up closing 50% of restaurants that aren't backed by chains or corporations, that's a huge impact of which we weren't aware.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While recording, Skipper mistakingly attributes Malcolm Gladwell's 10,000 hours of work equals mastery theory to "Blink" instead of "Outliers". (He corrected it with Nicolai offline as soon as he was able.) &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Stay tuned after the outro music for a bit of tape where Nicolai first mentions working on the line for the first time in six years.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This episode was edited and mastered by Troy Lococo.  Special Guest: Nicolai Lipscomb.&lt;/p&gt;
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  <itunes:keywords>people, restaurants, on the line, cooking on a line, kitchen, work, adrenaline, pressure, chaos, SAAS, grace under pressure</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Starting under mentorship with James Beard winner Barbara Lynch, Nicolai Lipscomb has chefed at some of the best restuarants in the world, full stop — Arzak, El Celler Can Roca, at Fundacion Alicia with scientists and nutritionists under the direction of Ferran Adria and Pere Castells, the list goes on and on. And so this conversation with Skipper Chong Warson ranges the globe, starting in Half Moon Bay, Calif. to bungee jumping outside Vancouver Island, British Columbia to working in high pressure kitchens in Boston, Mass.; San Sebastián, Spain; Girona, Spain; and back to northern Calif. again among other locations.</p>

<p>The topics range from talking about thrill seeking in motorcycle riding/bungee jumping, homemade Eggo waffles cooling on chopsticks, falling into and grinding through the ever challenging work of making and serving some of the most highly regarded food in the world while racing the clock and the swirling kitchen chaos, the requisite patience to not rush food, the secret to great paella, the importance of downtime in working as a chef, and the brain drain in running restuarants that&#39;s happening during COVID-19.</p>

<p>One thing that we learned is that restaurants are the number one employer in Calif. And working backwards from the idea that the golden state has 1/8 of the United States population and by some estimates the various 2020 shutdown orders will end up closing 50% of restaurants that aren&#39;t backed by chains or corporations, that&#39;s a huge impact of which we weren&#39;t aware.</p>

<p>While recording, Skipper mistakingly attributes Malcolm Gladwell&#39;s 10,000 hours of work equals mastery theory to &quot;Blink&quot; instead of &quot;Outliers&quot;. (He corrected it with Nicolai offline as soon as he was able.) </p>

<p>Stay tuned after the outro music for a bit of tape where Nicolai first mentions working on the line for the first time in six years.</p>

<p>This episode was edited and mastered by Troy Lococo. </p><p>Special Guest: Nicolai Lipscomb.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Adrenaline" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenaline">Adrenaline</a></li><li><a title="Eggo waffles" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.leggomyeggo.com/">Eggo waffles</a></li><li><a title="Barbara Lynch" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.jamesbeard.org/chef/barbara-lynch">Barbara Lynch</a></li><li><a title="No 9 Park" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.no9park.com/">No 9 Park</a></li><li><a title="B&amp;G Oysters" rel="nofollow" href="http://bandgoysters.com">B&amp;G Oysters</a></li><li><a title="Butcher Shop" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.thebutchershopboston.com">Butcher Shop</a></li><li><a title="Malcolm Gladwell&#39;s &quot;Outliers&quot;" rel="nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/a/9976/9780316017930">Malcolm Gladwell's "Outliers"</a></li><li><a title="Anne Sophie Pic" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.anne-sophie-pic.com/biography/?lang=en">Anne Sophie Pic</a></li><li><a title="Elena Arzak" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Arzak">Elena Arzak</a></li><li><a title="Juan Mari Arzak" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.arzak.es/en/">Juan Mari&nbsp;Arzak</a></li><li><a title="Joan Roca" rel="nofollow" href="https://cellercanroca.com/">Joan&nbsp;Roca</a></li><li><a title="El Celler de Can Roca" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Celler_de_Can_Roca">El Celler de Can Roca</a></li><li><a title="2018 San Pelligrino list with Arzak and El Celler de Can Roca" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.sanpellegrino.com/us/en/news/osteria-francescana-world-50-best-restaurants-2018-winner-3357">2018 San Pelligrino list with Arzak and El Celler de Can Roca</a></li><li><a title="Fundacion Alicia" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.alicia.cat/en/">Fundacion Alicia</a></li><li><a title="Ferran Adria" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferran_Adri%C3%A0">Ferran Adria</a></li><li><a title="Pere Castells" rel="nofollow" href="http://perecastells.com/">Pere Castells</a></li><li><a title="Restaurant Industry at a glance in California" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.restaurant.org/downloads/pdfs/state-statistics/california.pdf">Restaurant Industry at a glance in California</a></li><li><a title="Ferdinand&#39;s Paella" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ferdinandspaella.com/">Ferdinand's Paella</a></li><li><a title="Mustard Seed Hospitality" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.mustard-seed-hospitality.com/">Mustard Seed Hospitality</a></li><li><a title="Nicolai Lipscomb on LinkedIn" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolai-lipscomb/">Nicolai Lipscomb on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a title="Nicolai on Instagram" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/nicolai8it/">Nicolai on Instagram</a></li><li><a title="Intro and outro song: &quot;Zombie Nation&quot; by Jose Travieso" rel="nofollow" href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Jose_Travieso/Free_Music_Sampler_-_FreeMixter">Intro and outro song: "Zombie Nation" by Jose Travieso</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Starting under mentorship with James Beard winner Barbara Lynch, Nicolai Lipscomb has chefed at some of the best restuarants in the world, full stop — Arzak, El Celler Can Roca, at Fundacion Alicia with scientists and nutritionists under the direction of Ferran Adria and Pere Castells, the list goes on and on. And so this conversation with Skipper Chong Warson ranges the globe, starting in Half Moon Bay, Calif. to bungee jumping outside Vancouver Island, British Columbia to working in high pressure kitchens in Boston, Mass.; San Sebastián, Spain; Girona, Spain; and back to northern Calif. again among other locations.</p>

<p>The topics range from talking about thrill seeking in motorcycle riding/bungee jumping, homemade Eggo waffles cooling on chopsticks, falling into and grinding through the ever challenging work of making and serving some of the most highly regarded food in the world while racing the clock and the swirling kitchen chaos, the requisite patience to not rush food, the secret to great paella, the importance of downtime in working as a chef, and the brain drain in running restuarants that&#39;s happening during COVID-19.</p>

<p>One thing that we learned is that restaurants are the number one employer in Calif. And working backwards from the idea that the golden state has 1/8 of the United States population and by some estimates the various 2020 shutdown orders will end up closing 50% of restaurants that aren&#39;t backed by chains or corporations, that&#39;s a huge impact of which we weren&#39;t aware.</p>

<p>While recording, Skipper mistakingly attributes Malcolm Gladwell&#39;s 10,000 hours of work equals mastery theory to &quot;Blink&quot; instead of &quot;Outliers&quot;. (He corrected it with Nicolai offline as soon as he was able.) </p>

<p>Stay tuned after the outro music for a bit of tape where Nicolai first mentions working on the line for the first time in six years.</p>

<p>This episode was edited and mastered by Troy Lococo. </p><p>Special Guest: Nicolai Lipscomb.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Adrenaline" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenaline">Adrenaline</a></li><li><a title="Eggo waffles" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.leggomyeggo.com/">Eggo waffles</a></li><li><a title="Barbara Lynch" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.jamesbeard.org/chef/barbara-lynch">Barbara Lynch</a></li><li><a title="No 9 Park" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.no9park.com/">No 9 Park</a></li><li><a title="B&amp;G Oysters" rel="nofollow" href="http://bandgoysters.com">B&amp;G Oysters</a></li><li><a title="Butcher Shop" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.thebutchershopboston.com">Butcher Shop</a></li><li><a title="Malcolm Gladwell&#39;s &quot;Outliers&quot;" rel="nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/a/9976/9780316017930">Malcolm Gladwell's "Outliers"</a></li><li><a title="Anne Sophie Pic" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.anne-sophie-pic.com/biography/?lang=en">Anne Sophie Pic</a></li><li><a title="Elena Arzak" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Arzak">Elena Arzak</a></li><li><a title="Juan Mari Arzak" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.arzak.es/en/">Juan Mari&nbsp;Arzak</a></li><li><a title="Joan Roca" rel="nofollow" href="https://cellercanroca.com/">Joan&nbsp;Roca</a></li><li><a title="El Celler de Can Roca" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Celler_de_Can_Roca">El Celler de Can Roca</a></li><li><a title="2018 San Pelligrino list with Arzak and El Celler de Can Roca" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.sanpellegrino.com/us/en/news/osteria-francescana-world-50-best-restaurants-2018-winner-3357">2018 San Pelligrino list with Arzak and El Celler de Can Roca</a></li><li><a title="Fundacion Alicia" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.alicia.cat/en/">Fundacion Alicia</a></li><li><a title="Ferran Adria" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferran_Adri%C3%A0">Ferran Adria</a></li><li><a title="Pere Castells" rel="nofollow" href="http://perecastells.com/">Pere Castells</a></li><li><a title="Restaurant Industry at a glance in California" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.restaurant.org/downloads/pdfs/state-statistics/california.pdf">Restaurant Industry at a glance in California</a></li><li><a title="Ferdinand&#39;s Paella" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ferdinandspaella.com/">Ferdinand's Paella</a></li><li><a title="Mustard Seed Hospitality" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.mustard-seed-hospitality.com/">Mustard Seed Hospitality</a></li><li><a title="Nicolai Lipscomb on LinkedIn" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolai-lipscomb/">Nicolai Lipscomb on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a title="Nicolai on Instagram" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/nicolai8it/">Nicolai on Instagram</a></li><li><a title="Intro and outro song: &quot;Zombie Nation&quot; by Jose Travieso" rel="nofollow" href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Jose_Travieso/Free_Music_Sampler_-_FreeMixter">Intro and outro song: "Zombie Nation" by Jose Travieso</a></li></ul>]]>
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