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    <description>Talking shop with 100 people about their work and associated craft — exploring what they actually do, why they do it that way, and what changed along the way. Host Skipper Chong Warson sits down with folks to understand what's going on in their world right now. Season two explored product, design, and facilitation. The third season follows people actively building things right now.
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    <itunes:summary>Talking shop with 100 people about their work and associated craft — exploring what they actually do, why they do it that way, and what changed along the way. Host Skipper Chong Warson sits down with folks to understand what's going on in their world right now. Season two explored product, design, and facilitation. The third season follows people actively building things right now.
New episodes every few weeks. Part of How This Works co.
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, the script is flipped and Laura puts the questions to Skipper - topics include storytelling, making How This Works, life at home, and a variety of other topics</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Recorded in their child's bedroom on a weekday, Laura and Skipper chat about his academic background in writing (English literature, playwriting) as well as his professional background as a product design director (think desktop and mobile apps among other mediums) and how that plays into storytelling, most recently resulting in the creation of How This Works, this podcast.
They also talk about their life together — newsflash: they're married and living in the San Francisco Bay area, having moved from New York City a couple of years ago. Along the way, they get into some of the differences between life in SF and NYC. They also talk about their upcoming wedding anniversary after getting married next to Jane's Carousel in Brooklyn Bridge Park.
Along with talk about his name change from Starr to Skipper (and not Optimus Prime) at the age of seven, they bring in a few questions posed from the listening audience including lessons learned from the first season of the show, calling people the name they want to be called, how crucial listening is in making a podcast, the ubiquity of imposter syndrome, using the five (5) whys to get to the root cause of a challenge as developed by Sakichi Toyoda at the Toyota Motor Corporation, team falling asleep during movies versus team staying awake during movies, and why Skipper color codes versus alphabetizing the books in his background — see photo below.
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&lt;em&gt;View of the three shelves behind Skipper's standing desk&lt;/em&gt;
Laura and Skipper also reference the following previous episodes, in order of being published, including:
* Jack Kahana (https://www.howthisworks.show/001-jake-kahana), the first episode
* Dr. Peter Chin-Hong (https://www.howthisworks.show/003-dr-peter-chin-hong), the third episode
* Selena Rosanbalm (https://www.howthisworks.show/006-selena-rosanbalm), the sixth episode
* Cassandra Carlopio (https://www.howthisworks.show/015-cassandra-carlopio), the 15th episode
* Kat Hantas and Nicole Emanuel from 21Seeds (https://www.howthisworks.show/017-kat-hantas-nicole-emanuel), the 17th episode
* Sally McRae (https://www.howthisworks.show/018-sally-mcrae), the 18th episode
* Piper Payne (https://www.howthisworks.show/020-piper-payne), the 20th episode
Stay tuned after the outro music for a bit of tape where Skipper pauses for a bit of background noise and how from where Laura's sitting, the microphone makes it looks like his nose is a black bit of foam. Special Guest: Skipper Chong Warson.
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    <![CDATA[<p>Recorded in their child&#39;s bedroom on a weekday, Laura and Skipper chat about his academic background in writing (English literature, playwriting) as well as his professional background as a product design director (think desktop and mobile apps among other mediums) and how that plays into storytelling, most recently resulting in the creation of How This Works, this podcast.</p>

<p>They also talk about their life together — newsflash: they&#39;re married and living in the San Francisco Bay area, having moved from New York City a couple of years ago. Along the way, they get into some of the differences between life in SF and NYC. They also talk about their upcoming wedding anniversary after getting married next to Jane&#39;s Carousel in Brooklyn Bridge Park.</p>

<p>Along with talk about his name change from Starr to Skipper (and not Optimus Prime) at the age of seven, they bring in a few questions posed from the listening audience including lessons learned from the first season of the show, calling people the name they want to be called, how crucial listening is in making a podcast, the ubiquity of imposter syndrome, using the five (5) whys to get to the root cause of a challenge as developed by Sakichi Toyoda at the Toyota Motor Corporation, team falling asleep during movies versus team staying awake during movies, and why Skipper color codes versus alphabetizing the books in his background — see photo below.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/c/cf372a7e-810f-4eab-8a55-34456ccc0d58/dT-H9VNM.jpg" alt="workspace-color-coded-books"><br>
<em>View of the three shelves behind Skipper&#39;s standing desk</em></p>

<p>Laura and Skipper also reference the following previous episodes, in order of being published, including:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.howthisworks.show/001-jake-kahana" rel="nofollow">Jack Kahana</a>, the first episode</li>
<li><a href="https://www.howthisworks.show/003-dr-peter-chin-hong" rel="nofollow">Dr. Peter Chin-Hong</a>, the third episode</li>
<li><a href="https://www.howthisworks.show/006-selena-rosanbalm" rel="nofollow">Selena Rosanbalm</a>, the sixth episode</li>
<li><a href="https://www.howthisworks.show/015-cassandra-carlopio" rel="nofollow">Cassandra Carlopio</a>, the 15th episode</li>
<li><a href="https://www.howthisworks.show/017-kat-hantas-nicole-emanuel" rel="nofollow">Kat Hantas and Nicole Emanuel from 21Seeds</a>, the 17th episode</li>
<li><a href="https://www.howthisworks.show/018-sally-mcrae" rel="nofollow">Sally McRae</a>, the 18th episode</li>
<li><a href="https://www.howthisworks.show/020-piper-payne" rel="nofollow">Piper Payne</a>, the 20th episode</li>
</ul>

<p>Stay tuned after the outro music for a bit of tape where Skipper pauses for a bit of background noise and how from where Laura&#39;s sitting, the microphone makes it looks like his nose is a black bit of foam.</p><p>Special Guest: Skipper Chong Warson.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="American Museum of Natural History in New York City" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amnh.org/">American Museum of Natural History in New York City</a></li><li><a title="How to move across the country with design thinking, pt. 1 of 2" rel="nofollow" href="https://skipperchongwarson.medium.com/using-design-thinking-to-move-across-the-country-adf9f4138a09">How to move across the country with design thinking, pt. 1 of 2</a></li><li><a title="How to move across the country with design thinking, pt. 2 of 2" rel="nofollow" href="https://skipperchongwarson.medium.com/using-design-thinking-to-move-across-the-country-ff0c66a503c0">How to move across the country with design thinking, pt. 2 of 2</a></li><li><a title="Making &quot;Black Sabbath&quot; and &quot;Paranoid&quot;" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath#1969%E2%80%931971:_Black_Sabbath_and_Paranoid">Making "Black Sabbath" and "Paranoid"</a></li><li><a title="Design Voices from Fjord" rel="nofollow" href="https://medium.com/design-voices/listen/home">Design Voices from Fjord</a></li><li><a title="‎Fjord Fika on Apple podcasts" rel="nofollow" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fjord-fika/id1188221550">‎Fjord Fika on Apple podcasts</a></li><li><a title="Imposter syndrome" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/imposter-syndrome">Imposter syndrome</a></li><li><a title="Starbar" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starbar">Starbar</a></li><li><a title="&quot;Outliers: The Story of Success&quot; by Malcolm Gladwell" rel="nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/books/outliers-the-story-of-success-9780316024976/9780316017930?aid=9976&amp;listref=from-the-first-season-of-how-this-works">"Outliers: The Story of Success" by Malcolm Gladwell</a></li><li><a title="Jane&#39;s Carousel" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.janescarousel.com/">Jane's Carousel</a></li><li><a title="1922 Ohio carousel in Brooklyn besieged by Sandy" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/20993">1922 Ohio carousel in Brooklyn besieged by Sandy</a></li><li><a title="Determine The Root Cause: 5 Whys" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.isixsigma.com/tools-templates/cause-effect/determine-root-cause-5-whys/">Determine The Root Cause: 5 Whys</a></li><li><a title="Why do many mistakenly think human blood is sometimes blue?" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2017/02/03/513003105/why-do-many-think-human-blood-is-sometimes-blue">Why do many mistakenly think human blood is sometimes blue?</a></li><li><a title="SNL season 46 finale cold open - What I Remember About this Year" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo7SJGZ9WoA">SNL season 46 finale cold open - What I Remember About this Year</a></li><li><a title="‎John Wick (2014)" rel="nofollow" href="https://letterboxd.com/film/john-wick/">‎John Wick (2014)</a></li><li><a title="‎The Matrix (1999)" rel="nofollow" href="https://letterboxd.com/film/the-matrix/">‎The Matrix (1999)</a></li><li><a title="Keanu Reeves" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000206/">Keanu Reeves</a></li><li><a title="The Mosquito Coast on Apple TV+" rel="nofollow" href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/the-mosquito-coast/umc.cmc.5nghmxp88xe0qxhtlhfiu5r2h">The Mosquito Coast on Apple TV+</a></li><li><a title="‎The Mosquito Coast (1986)" rel="nofollow" href="https://letterboxd.com/film/the-mosquito-coast/">‎The Mosquito Coast (1986)</a></li><li><a title="The Mosquito Coast by Paul Theroux" rel="nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/books/the-mosquito-coast-9780618658961/9780618658961">The Mosquito Coast by Paul Theroux</a></li><li><a title="‎The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)" rel="nofollow" href="https://letterboxd.com/film/the-lord-of-the-rings-the-fellowship-of-the-ring/">‎The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)</a></li><li><a title="‎Wireframe with Adobe’s Khoi Vinh" rel="nofollow" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wireframe/id1437677219">‎Wireframe with Adobe’s Khoi Vinh</a></li><li><a title="Invisibilia from NPR" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510307/invisibilia">Invisibilia from NPR</a></li><li><a title="99% Invisible" rel="nofollow" href="https://99percentinvisible.org/">99% Invisible</a></li><li><a title="Adrianne Lenker (from Big Thief)" rel="nofollow" href="https://adriannelenker.com/">Adrianne Lenker (from Big Thief)</a></li><li><a title="Prince" rel="nofollow" href="https://prince.com/">Prince</a></li><li><a title="Japanese Breakfast" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.japanesebreakfast.rocks/index">Japanese Breakfast</a></li><li><a title="Billie Eilish" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.billieeilish.com/">Billie Eilish</a></li><li><a title="BTS" rel="nofollow" href="https://bts.ibighit.com">BTS</a></li><li><a title="BTS performs &#39;Fix You&#39; (Coldplay cover) from MTV Unplugged" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60g72d4Nqss">BTS performs 'Fix You' (Coldplay cover) from MTV Unplugged</a></li><li><a title="BLACKPINK" rel="nofollow" href="http://blackpinkofficial.com/">BLACKPINK</a></li><li><a title="Custom lathe cut vinyl records from Vinylus" rel="nofollow" href="https://vinylus.com/">Custom lathe cut vinyl records from Vinylus</a></li><li><a title="&quot;St. Lucy&#39;s Home for Girls Raised by Wolves&quot; by Karen Russell" rel="nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/books/st-lucy-s-home-for-girls-raised-by-wolves/9780307276674">"St. Lucy's Home for Girls Raised by Wolves" by Karen Russell</a></li><li><a title="Intro and outro song: &quot;Zombie Nation&quot; by Jose Travieso" rel="nofollow" href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Jose_Travieso/Free_Music_Sampler_-_FreeMixter">Intro and outro song: "Zombie Nation" by Jose Travieso</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Recorded in their child&#39;s bedroom on a weekday, Laura and Skipper chat about his academic background in writing (English literature, playwriting) as well as his professional background as a product design director (think desktop and mobile apps among other mediums) and how that plays into storytelling, most recently resulting in the creation of How This Works, this podcast.</p>

<p>They also talk about their life together — newsflash: they&#39;re married and living in the San Francisco Bay area, having moved from New York City a couple of years ago. Along the way, they get into some of the differences between life in SF and NYC. They also talk about their upcoming wedding anniversary after getting married next to Jane&#39;s Carousel in Brooklyn Bridge Park.</p>

<p>Along with talk about his name change from Starr to Skipper (and not Optimus Prime) at the age of seven, they bring in a few questions posed from the listening audience including lessons learned from the first season of the show, calling people the name they want to be called, how crucial listening is in making a podcast, the ubiquity of imposter syndrome, using the five (5) whys to get to the root cause of a challenge as developed by Sakichi Toyoda at the Toyota Motor Corporation, team falling asleep during movies versus team staying awake during movies, and why Skipper color codes versus alphabetizing the books in his background — see photo below.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/c/cf372a7e-810f-4eab-8a55-34456ccc0d58/dT-H9VNM.jpg" alt="workspace-color-coded-books"><br>
<em>View of the three shelves behind Skipper&#39;s standing desk</em></p>

<p>Laura and Skipper also reference the following previous episodes, in order of being published, including:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.howthisworks.show/001-jake-kahana" rel="nofollow">Jack Kahana</a>, the first episode</li>
<li><a href="https://www.howthisworks.show/003-dr-peter-chin-hong" rel="nofollow">Dr. Peter Chin-Hong</a>, the third episode</li>
<li><a href="https://www.howthisworks.show/006-selena-rosanbalm" rel="nofollow">Selena Rosanbalm</a>, the sixth episode</li>
<li><a href="https://www.howthisworks.show/015-cassandra-carlopio" rel="nofollow">Cassandra Carlopio</a>, the 15th episode</li>
<li><a href="https://www.howthisworks.show/017-kat-hantas-nicole-emanuel" rel="nofollow">Kat Hantas and Nicole Emanuel from 21Seeds</a>, the 17th episode</li>
<li><a href="https://www.howthisworks.show/018-sally-mcrae" rel="nofollow">Sally McRae</a>, the 18th episode</li>
<li><a href="https://www.howthisworks.show/020-piper-payne" rel="nofollow">Piper Payne</a>, the 20th episode</li>
</ul>

<p>Stay tuned after the outro music for a bit of tape where Skipper pauses for a bit of background noise and how from where Laura&#39;s sitting, the microphone makes it looks like his nose is a black bit of foam.</p><p>Special Guest: Skipper Chong Warson.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="American Museum of Natural History in New York City" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.amnh.org/">American Museum of Natural History in New York City</a></li><li><a title="How to move across the country with design thinking, pt. 1 of 2" rel="nofollow" href="https://skipperchongwarson.medium.com/using-design-thinking-to-move-across-the-country-adf9f4138a09">How to move across the country with design thinking, pt. 1 of 2</a></li><li><a title="How to move across the country with design thinking, pt. 2 of 2" rel="nofollow" href="https://skipperchongwarson.medium.com/using-design-thinking-to-move-across-the-country-ff0c66a503c0">How to move across the country with design thinking, pt. 2 of 2</a></li><li><a title="Making &quot;Black Sabbath&quot; and &quot;Paranoid&quot;" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath#1969%E2%80%931971:_Black_Sabbath_and_Paranoid">Making "Black Sabbath" and "Paranoid"</a></li><li><a title="Design Voices from Fjord" rel="nofollow" href="https://medium.com/design-voices/listen/home">Design Voices from Fjord</a></li><li><a title="‎Fjord Fika on Apple podcasts" rel="nofollow" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fjord-fika/id1188221550">‎Fjord Fika on Apple podcasts</a></li><li><a title="Imposter syndrome" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/imposter-syndrome">Imposter syndrome</a></li><li><a title="Starbar" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starbar">Starbar</a></li><li><a title="&quot;Outliers: The Story of Success&quot; by Malcolm Gladwell" rel="nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/books/outliers-the-story-of-success-9780316024976/9780316017930?aid=9976&amp;listref=from-the-first-season-of-how-this-works">"Outliers: The Story of Success" by Malcolm Gladwell</a></li><li><a title="Jane&#39;s Carousel" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.janescarousel.com/">Jane's Carousel</a></li><li><a title="1922 Ohio carousel in Brooklyn besieged by Sandy" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/20993">1922 Ohio carousel in Brooklyn besieged by Sandy</a></li><li><a title="Determine The Root Cause: 5 Whys" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.isixsigma.com/tools-templates/cause-effect/determine-root-cause-5-whys/">Determine The Root Cause: 5 Whys</a></li><li><a title="Why do many mistakenly think human blood is sometimes blue?" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2017/02/03/513003105/why-do-many-think-human-blood-is-sometimes-blue">Why do many mistakenly think human blood is sometimes blue?</a></li><li><a title="SNL season 46 finale cold open - What I Remember About this Year" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo7SJGZ9WoA">SNL season 46 finale cold open - What I Remember About this Year</a></li><li><a title="‎John Wick (2014)" rel="nofollow" href="https://letterboxd.com/film/john-wick/">‎John Wick (2014)</a></li><li><a title="‎The Matrix (1999)" rel="nofollow" href="https://letterboxd.com/film/the-matrix/">‎The Matrix (1999)</a></li><li><a title="Keanu Reeves" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000206/">Keanu Reeves</a></li><li><a title="The Mosquito Coast on Apple TV+" rel="nofollow" href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/the-mosquito-coast/umc.cmc.5nghmxp88xe0qxhtlhfiu5r2h">The Mosquito Coast on Apple TV+</a></li><li><a title="‎The Mosquito Coast (1986)" rel="nofollow" href="https://letterboxd.com/film/the-mosquito-coast/">‎The Mosquito Coast (1986)</a></li><li><a title="The Mosquito Coast by Paul Theroux" rel="nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/books/the-mosquito-coast-9780618658961/9780618658961">The Mosquito Coast by Paul Theroux</a></li><li><a title="‎The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)" rel="nofollow" href="https://letterboxd.com/film/the-lord-of-the-rings-the-fellowship-of-the-ring/">‎The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)</a></li><li><a title="‎Wireframe with Adobe’s Khoi Vinh" rel="nofollow" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wireframe/id1437677219">‎Wireframe with Adobe’s Khoi Vinh</a></li><li><a title="Invisibilia from NPR" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510307/invisibilia">Invisibilia from NPR</a></li><li><a title="99% Invisible" rel="nofollow" href="https://99percentinvisible.org/">99% Invisible</a></li><li><a title="Adrianne Lenker (from Big Thief)" rel="nofollow" href="https://adriannelenker.com/">Adrianne Lenker (from Big Thief)</a></li><li><a title="Prince" rel="nofollow" href="https://prince.com/">Prince</a></li><li><a title="Japanese Breakfast" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.japanesebreakfast.rocks/index">Japanese Breakfast</a></li><li><a title="Billie Eilish" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.billieeilish.com/">Billie Eilish</a></li><li><a title="BTS" rel="nofollow" href="https://bts.ibighit.com">BTS</a></li><li><a title="BTS performs &#39;Fix You&#39; (Coldplay cover) from MTV Unplugged" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60g72d4Nqss">BTS performs 'Fix You' (Coldplay cover) from MTV Unplugged</a></li><li><a title="BLACKPINK" rel="nofollow" href="http://blackpinkofficial.com/">BLACKPINK</a></li><li><a title="Custom lathe cut vinyl records from Vinylus" rel="nofollow" href="https://vinylus.com/">Custom lathe cut vinyl records from Vinylus</a></li><li><a title="&quot;St. Lucy&#39;s Home for Girls Raised by Wolves&quot; by Karen Russell" rel="nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/books/st-lucy-s-home-for-girls-raised-by-wolves/9780307276674">"St. Lucy's Home for Girls Raised by Wolves" by Karen Russell</a></li><li><a title="Intro and outro song: &quot;Zombie Nation&quot; by Jose Travieso" rel="nofollow" href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Jose_Travieso/Free_Music_Sampler_-_FreeMixter">Intro and outro song: "Zombie Nation" by Jose Travieso</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Thejus Chakravarthy</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2021 05:15:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Skipper Chong Warson</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Skipper chats with Thejus Chakravarthy about how we can manifest change, both from a point-of-view of learning/work as well as in our personal lives</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:12:50</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>This show with Thejus Chakravarthy ranges over a wide variety of topics but along the way we find out about his professional and life experiences in making change in the world.
We start with his origins crowning in a cab in Mumbai, India, the ease in which his right shoulder dislocates after a show once upon a time with his hardcore band Lovers and Killers, the joy of Royal Farm (RoFo) fried chicken, and the brilliance of a 'hot now' Krispy Kreme donut. Skipper and Thejus also get into his two books, Brushfire (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rb4cYn4mEMcXxuMApiVZAVRe-aav6lyL/view?usp=sharing) and The Flywheel and The Lever (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EXi1vET4XcgFQp3Nlrjfx-Z4g80Qi4ki/view?usp=sharing) where they get into some of the foundational details, including Henry Ford's creation of the 40 hour workweek, the Stanford prison experiment done by Dr. Philip Zimbardo, Stanley Milgram's experiments on obedience to authority figures, the notion of 'it's always the system', the Ben Franklin effect, Thejus' experience creating an instructional system out of open source technologies, Donella Meadows' essay on leverage points, and Gamergate. See if you can pick out the Seth Godin namedrop.
Interesting note about Thejus' previous band — Lovers and Killers, then Caestles, and now Queen Wolf as well as a second band called Infinite Pizza. While he formally left that band about five years ago, they're still making music and he helps with production and occasionally contributes. Here's an audio family tree/playlist:
* "An Hour Left of Forever" from Lovers &amp;amp; Killers' 2006 album Tropic of Cancer (YouTube (https://youtu.be/GRSHueeGhUE) or Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/track/017VkXSXh0xSMHeSEovhx3))
* "William Blake" from Caestles' 2010 album A Treatise of Human Combustion (YouTube (https://youtu.be/_PTS_G0Km6s) or Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/track/7Hl0Z57U2QTYNeo3eKbviW?si=gUYlELV_SGSTpoGhyd8S5g))
* Infinite Pizza at the Windup Space in Baltimore on July 13, 2014 (YouTube (https://youtu.be/ZlcO41HLTHk))
Queen Wolf (https://queenwolf.bandcamp.com) and Infinite Pizza (https://infinitepizza.bandcamp.com) are both on Bandcamp, if you want to indulge deeper.
After the outro music, you can hear Skipper spring on Thejus a request to read the opening bit from "Brushfire". 
This episode was edited and mastered by Troy Lococo.  Special Guest: Thejus Chakravarthy.
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  <itunes:keywords>system, immigrant, bodega, Zimbardo, listen, switches, Baltimore, New York City, Royal Farms, Krispy Kreme, Milgram, Donella Meadows, cult, hircinous</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>This show with Thejus Chakravarthy ranges over a wide variety of topics but along the way we find out about his professional and life experiences in making change in the world.</p>

<p>We start with his origins crowning in a cab in Mumbai, India, the ease in which his right shoulder dislocates after a show once upon a time with his hardcore band Lovers and Killers, the joy of Royal Farm (RoFo) fried chicken, and the brilliance of a &#39;hot now&#39; Krispy Kreme donut. Skipper and Thejus also get into his two books, <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rb4cYn4mEMcXxuMApiVZAVRe-aav6lyL/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow">Brushfire</a> and <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EXi1vET4XcgFQp3Nlrjfx-Z4g80Qi4ki/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow">The Flywheel and The Lever</a> where they get into some of the foundational details, including Henry Ford&#39;s creation of the 40 hour workweek, the Stanford prison experiment done by Dr. Philip Zimbardo, Stanley Milgram&#39;s experiments on obedience to authority figures, the notion of &#39;it&#39;s always the system&#39;, the Ben Franklin effect, Thejus&#39; experience creating an instructional system out of open source technologies, Donella Meadows&#39; essay on leverage points, and Gamergate. See if you can pick out the Seth Godin namedrop.</p>

<p>Interesting note about Thejus&#39; previous band — Lovers and Killers, then Caestles, and now Queen Wolf as well as a second band called Infinite Pizza. While he formally left that band about five years ago, they&#39;re still making music and he helps with production and occasionally contributes. Here&#39;s an audio family tree/playlist:</p>

<ul>
<li>&quot;An Hour Left of Forever&quot; from Lovers &amp; Killers&#39; 2006 album <em>Tropic of Cancer</em> (<a href="https://youtu.be/GRSHueeGhUE" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/017VkXSXh0xSMHeSEovhx3" rel="nofollow">Spotify</a>)</li>
<li>&quot;William Blake&quot; from Caestles&#39; 2010 album <em>A Treatise of Human Combustion</em> (<a href="https://youtu.be/_PTS_G0Km6s" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/7Hl0Z57U2QTYNeo3eKbviW?si=gUYlELV_SGSTpoGhyd8S5g" rel="nofollow">Spotify</a>)</li>
<li>Infinite Pizza at the Windup Space in Baltimore on July 13, 2014 (<a href="https://youtu.be/ZlcO41HLTHk" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="https://queenwolf.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow">Queen Wolf</a> and <a href="https://infinitepizza.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow">Infinite Pizza</a> are both on Bandcamp, if you want to indulge deeper.</p>

<p>After the outro music, you can hear Skipper spring on Thejus a request to read the opening bit from &quot;Brushfire&quot;. </p>

<p>This episode was edited and mastered by Troy Lococo. </p><p>Special Guest: Thejus Chakravarthy.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Ford factory workers get 40-hour week on May 1, 1926" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/ford-factory-workers-get-40-hour-week">Ford factory workers get 40-hour week on May 1, 1926</a></li><li><a title="Books by Sir Terry Pratchett" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.terrypratchettbooks.com/books/">Books by Sir Terry Pratchett</a></li><li><a title="Royal Farms best fried chicken" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.royalfarms.com/best-chicken">Royal Farms best fried chicken</a></li><li><a title="Sugata Mitra&#39;s TED talk on how kids can teach themselves" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_kids_can_teach_themselves">Sugata Mitra's TED talk on how kids can teach themselves</a></li><li><a title="Thejus&#39; book &quot;Brushfire&quot;" rel="nofollow" href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rb4cYn4mEMcXxuMApiVZAVRe-aav6lyL/view?usp=sharing">Thejus' book "Brushfire"</a></li><li><a title="The official Stanford Prison Experiment website" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.prisonexp.org">The official Stanford Prison Experiment website</a></li><li><a title="Milgram experiment" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment">Milgram experiment</a></li><li><a title="Hot Signage Now: Krispy Kreme in Times Square" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.signshop.com/dimensional/architectural/hot-signage-krispy-kreme-times-square/">Hot Signage Now: Krispy Kreme in Times Square</a></li><li><a title="The Benjamin Franklin Effect" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/02/20/the-benjamin-franklin-effect-mcraney/">The Benjamin Franklin Effect</a></li><li><a title="Leverage Points: Places to Intervene in a System by Donella Meadows" rel="nofollow" href="http://donellameadows.org/archives/leverage-points-places-to-intervene-in-a-system/">Leverage Points: Places to Intervene in a System by Donella Meadows</a></li><li><a title="Seth Godin&#39;s TED talk about the subject of his book, &quot;Tribes: We Need You to Lead Us&quot;" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/seth_godin_the_tribes_we_lead">Seth Godin's TED talk about the subject of his book, "Tribes: We Need You to Lead Us"</a></li><li><a title="Seth Godin&#39;s book, Tribes" rel="nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/a/9976/9781591842330">Seth Godin's book, Tribes</a></li><li><a title="Thejus&#39; book &quot;The Flywheel and The Lever&quot;" rel="nofollow" href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EXi1vET4XcgFQp3Nlrjfx-Z4g80Qi4ki/view?usp=sharing">Thejus' book "The Flywheel and The Lever"</a></li><li><a title="Tim Ferriss" rel="nofollow" href="https://tim.blog">Tim Ferriss</a></li><li><a title="What Is Gamergate, and Why? An Explainer for Non-Geeks" rel="nofollow" href="https://gawker.com/what-is-gamergate-and-why-an-explainer-for-non-geeks-1642909080">What Is Gamergate, and Why? An Explainer for Non-Geeks</a></li><li><a title="Thejus&#39; work site, hircinous.com" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.hircinous.com">Thejus' work site, hircinous.com</a></li><li><a title="Intro and outro song: &quot;Zombie Nation&quot; by Jose Travieso" rel="nofollow" href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Jose_Travieso/Free_Music_Sampler_-_FreeMixter">Intro and outro song: "Zombie Nation" by Jose Travieso</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This show with Thejus Chakravarthy ranges over a wide variety of topics but along the way we find out about his professional and life experiences in making change in the world.</p>

<p>We start with his origins crowning in a cab in Mumbai, India, the ease in which his right shoulder dislocates after a show once upon a time with his hardcore band Lovers and Killers, the joy of Royal Farm (RoFo) fried chicken, and the brilliance of a &#39;hot now&#39; Krispy Kreme donut. Skipper and Thejus also get into his two books, <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rb4cYn4mEMcXxuMApiVZAVRe-aav6lyL/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow">Brushfire</a> and <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EXi1vET4XcgFQp3Nlrjfx-Z4g80Qi4ki/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow">The Flywheel and The Lever</a> where they get into some of the foundational details, including Henry Ford&#39;s creation of the 40 hour workweek, the Stanford prison experiment done by Dr. Philip Zimbardo, Stanley Milgram&#39;s experiments on obedience to authority figures, the notion of &#39;it&#39;s always the system&#39;, the Ben Franklin effect, Thejus&#39; experience creating an instructional system out of open source technologies, Donella Meadows&#39; essay on leverage points, and Gamergate. See if you can pick out the Seth Godin namedrop.</p>

<p>Interesting note about Thejus&#39; previous band — Lovers and Killers, then Caestles, and now Queen Wolf as well as a second band called Infinite Pizza. While he formally left that band about five years ago, they&#39;re still making music and he helps with production and occasionally contributes. Here&#39;s an audio family tree/playlist:</p>

<ul>
<li>&quot;An Hour Left of Forever&quot; from Lovers &amp; Killers&#39; 2006 album <em>Tropic of Cancer</em> (<a href="https://youtu.be/GRSHueeGhUE" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/017VkXSXh0xSMHeSEovhx3" rel="nofollow">Spotify</a>)</li>
<li>&quot;William Blake&quot; from Caestles&#39; 2010 album <em>A Treatise of Human Combustion</em> (<a href="https://youtu.be/_PTS_G0Km6s" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/7Hl0Z57U2QTYNeo3eKbviW?si=gUYlELV_SGSTpoGhyd8S5g" rel="nofollow">Spotify</a>)</li>
<li>Infinite Pizza at the Windup Space in Baltimore on July 13, 2014 (<a href="https://youtu.be/ZlcO41HLTHk" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="https://queenwolf.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow">Queen Wolf</a> and <a href="https://infinitepizza.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow">Infinite Pizza</a> are both on Bandcamp, if you want to indulge deeper.</p>

<p>After the outro music, you can hear Skipper spring on Thejus a request to read the opening bit from &quot;Brushfire&quot;. </p>

<p>This episode was edited and mastered by Troy Lococo. </p><p>Special Guest: Thejus Chakravarthy.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Ford factory workers get 40-hour week on May 1, 1926" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/ford-factory-workers-get-40-hour-week">Ford factory workers get 40-hour week on May 1, 1926</a></li><li><a title="Books by Sir Terry Pratchett" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.terrypratchettbooks.com/books/">Books by Sir Terry Pratchett</a></li><li><a title="Royal Farms best fried chicken" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.royalfarms.com/best-chicken">Royal Farms best fried chicken</a></li><li><a title="Sugata Mitra&#39;s TED talk on how kids can teach themselves" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/sugata_mitra_kids_can_teach_themselves">Sugata Mitra's TED talk on how kids can teach themselves</a></li><li><a title="Thejus&#39; book &quot;Brushfire&quot;" rel="nofollow" href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rb4cYn4mEMcXxuMApiVZAVRe-aav6lyL/view?usp=sharing">Thejus' book "Brushfire"</a></li><li><a title="The official Stanford Prison Experiment website" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.prisonexp.org">The official Stanford Prison Experiment website</a></li><li><a title="Milgram experiment" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment">Milgram experiment</a></li><li><a title="Hot Signage Now: Krispy Kreme in Times Square" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.signshop.com/dimensional/architectural/hot-signage-krispy-kreme-times-square/">Hot Signage Now: Krispy Kreme in Times Square</a></li><li><a title="The Benjamin Franklin Effect" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/02/20/the-benjamin-franklin-effect-mcraney/">The Benjamin Franklin Effect</a></li><li><a title="Leverage Points: Places to Intervene in a System by Donella Meadows" rel="nofollow" href="http://donellameadows.org/archives/leverage-points-places-to-intervene-in-a-system/">Leverage Points: Places to Intervene in a System by Donella Meadows</a></li><li><a title="Seth Godin&#39;s TED talk about the subject of his book, &quot;Tribes: We Need You to Lead Us&quot;" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/seth_godin_the_tribes_we_lead">Seth Godin's TED talk about the subject of his book, "Tribes: We Need You to Lead Us"</a></li><li><a title="Seth Godin&#39;s book, Tribes" rel="nofollow" href="https://bookshop.org/a/9976/9781591842330">Seth Godin's book, Tribes</a></li><li><a title="Thejus&#39; book &quot;The Flywheel and The Lever&quot;" rel="nofollow" href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EXi1vET4XcgFQp3Nlrjfx-Z4g80Qi4ki/view?usp=sharing">Thejus' book "The Flywheel and The Lever"</a></li><li><a title="Tim Ferriss" rel="nofollow" href="https://tim.blog">Tim Ferriss</a></li><li><a title="What Is Gamergate, and Why? An Explainer for Non-Geeks" rel="nofollow" href="https://gawker.com/what-is-gamergate-and-why-an-explainer-for-non-geeks-1642909080">What Is Gamergate, and Why? An Explainer for Non-Geeks</a></li><li><a title="Thejus&#39; work site, hircinous.com" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.hircinous.com">Thejus' work site, hircinous.com</a></li><li><a title="Intro and outro song: &quot;Zombie Nation&quot; by Jose Travieso" rel="nofollow" href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Jose_Travieso/Free_Music_Sampler_-_FreeMixter">Intro and outro song: "Zombie Nation" by Jose Travieso</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Stephanie Krivitzky</title>
  <link>https://www.howthisworks.show/008-stephanie-krivitzky</link>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2021 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Skipper Chong Warson</author>
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  <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
  <itunes:author>Skipper Chong Warson</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Skipper chats with Stephanie Krivitzky about how she gets things done — in the context of being a creative director, designer, and a person in the world</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>59:39</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>Stephanie Krivitzky, currently in New York City, talks to Skipper about how she gets things done, starting with family discussions around the dinner table and then into her current role as creative director at Misen, a cookware company.
The conversation hits so many points, starting with her frustration with baths, how the notion of logistics eventually fed into the concept of getting things done, how hustling and freelancing built her discipline, using your own motivations and demotiavtions as an aligning principle, how getting things done for other people is different than when you're working for yourself, thinking about the Eisenhower Matrix graph with its four quadrants of high/low impact and high/low effort to prioritize your work, what happens when you never do a thing you're supposed to (read: like Skipper's example of not being very good at flossing at night), to-do lists as part of the process of reflecting back on how something went, and how she thinks of her own to-do lists as little diaries.
Stephanie Krivitzky list https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/c/cf372a7e-810f-4eab-8a55-34456ccc0d58/ZmyOdm4L.jpg
Towards the end of the episode, Skipper mentions a card-based productivity system of which he couldn't recall the name. It's called Analog (https://ugmonk.com/pages/analog).
After the outro music, you can hear Stephanie talk about her friend of 14 years already wanting to listen to this episode. 😃🎉
This episode was edited and mastered by Troy Lococo.  Special Guest: Stephanie Krivitzky.
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>multitasking, get things done, GTD, lists, to-do, calendar, diary, list, creative director, designer, design</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>Stephanie Krivitzky, currently in New York City, talks to Skipper about how she gets things done, starting with family discussions around the dinner table and then into her current role as creative director at Misen, a cookware company.</p>

<p>The conversation hits so many points, starting with her frustration with baths, how the notion of logistics eventually fed into the concept of getting things done, how hustling and freelancing built her discipline, using your own motivations and demotiavtions as an aligning principle, how getting things done for other people is different than when you&#39;re working for yourself, thinking about the Eisenhower Matrix graph with its four quadrants of high/low impact and high/low effort to prioritize your work, what happens when you never do a thing you&#39;re supposed to (read: like Skipper&#39;s example of not being very good at flossing at night), to-do lists as part of the process of reflecting back on how something went, and how she thinks of her own to-do lists as little diaries.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/c/cf372a7e-810f-4eab-8a55-34456ccc0d58/ZmyOdm4L.jpg" alt="Stephanie Krivitzky list" title="An example of one of Stephanie&#39;s to-do lists"></p>

<p>Towards the end of the episode, Skipper mentions a card-based productivity system of which he couldn&#39;t recall the name. It&#39;s called <a href="https://ugmonk.com/pages/analog" rel="nofollow">Analog</a>.</p>

<p>After the outro music, you can hear Stephanie talk about her friend of 14 years already wanting to listen to this episode. 😃🎉</p>

<p>This episode was edited and mastered by Troy Lococo. </p><p>Special Guest: Stephanie Krivitzky.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Misen cookware" rel="nofollow" href="https://misen.com">Misen cookware</a></li><li><a title="Eisenhower graph of impact/effort" rel="nofollow" href="https://thoughtbot.com/blog/impact-effort-matrices-they-re-awesome-and-you-can-too-title-in-progress#draw-your-matrix">Eisenhower graph of impact/effort</a></li><li><a title="The Myth Of Multitasking" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.npr.org/2013/05/10/182861382/the-myth-of-multitasking">The Myth Of Multitasking</a></li><li><a title="Cave Day" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.caveday.org/">Cave Day</a></li><li><a title="Monday" rel="nofollow" href="https://monday.com">Monday</a></li><li><a title="Bullet Journal" rel="nofollow" href="https://bulletjournal.com">Bullet Journal</a></li><li><a title="Analog" rel="nofollow" href="https://ugmonk.com/pages/analog">Analog</a></li><li><a title="Obligatory puppy picture" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CInq8euBxN6/">Obligatory puppy picture</a></li><li><a title="Stephanie Krivitzky" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.stephaniekrivitzky.com">Stephanie Krivitzky</a></li><li><a title="Intro and outro song: &quot;Zombie Nation&quot; by Jose Travieso" rel="nofollow" href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Jose_Travieso/Free_Music_Sampler_-_FreeMixter">Intro and outro song: "Zombie Nation" by Jose Travieso</a></li></ul>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Stephanie Krivitzky, currently in New York City, talks to Skipper about how she gets things done, starting with family discussions around the dinner table and then into her current role as creative director at Misen, a cookware company.</p>

<p>The conversation hits so many points, starting with her frustration with baths, how the notion of logistics eventually fed into the concept of getting things done, how hustling and freelancing built her discipline, using your own motivations and demotiavtions as an aligning principle, how getting things done for other people is different than when you&#39;re working for yourself, thinking about the Eisenhower Matrix graph with its four quadrants of high/low impact and high/low effort to prioritize your work, what happens when you never do a thing you&#39;re supposed to (read: like Skipper&#39;s example of not being very good at flossing at night), to-do lists as part of the process of reflecting back on how something went, and how she thinks of her own to-do lists as little diaries.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/c/cf372a7e-810f-4eab-8a55-34456ccc0d58/ZmyOdm4L.jpg" alt="Stephanie Krivitzky list" title="An example of one of Stephanie&#39;s to-do lists"></p>

<p>Towards the end of the episode, Skipper mentions a card-based productivity system of which he couldn&#39;t recall the name. It&#39;s called <a href="https://ugmonk.com/pages/analog" rel="nofollow">Analog</a>.</p>

<p>After the outro music, you can hear Stephanie talk about her friend of 14 years already wanting to listen to this episode. 😃🎉</p>

<p>This episode was edited and mastered by Troy Lococo. </p><p>Special Guest: Stephanie Krivitzky.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Misen cookware" rel="nofollow" href="https://misen.com">Misen cookware</a></li><li><a title="Eisenhower graph of impact/effort" rel="nofollow" href="https://thoughtbot.com/blog/impact-effort-matrices-they-re-awesome-and-you-can-too-title-in-progress#draw-your-matrix">Eisenhower graph of impact/effort</a></li><li><a title="The Myth Of Multitasking" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.npr.org/2013/05/10/182861382/the-myth-of-multitasking">The Myth Of Multitasking</a></li><li><a title="Cave Day" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.caveday.org/">Cave Day</a></li><li><a title="Monday" rel="nofollow" href="https://monday.com">Monday</a></li><li><a title="Bullet Journal" rel="nofollow" href="https://bulletjournal.com">Bullet Journal</a></li><li><a title="Analog" rel="nofollow" href="https://ugmonk.com/pages/analog">Analog</a></li><li><a title="Obligatory puppy picture" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CInq8euBxN6/">Obligatory puppy picture</a></li><li><a title="Stephanie Krivitzky" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.stephaniekrivitzky.com">Stephanie Krivitzky</a></li><li><a title="Intro and outro song: &quot;Zombie Nation&quot; by Jose Travieso" rel="nofollow" href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Jose_Travieso/Free_Music_Sampler_-_FreeMixter">Intro and outro song: "Zombie Nation" by Jose Travieso</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Jake Kahana</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2020 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Skipper Chong Warson</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Skipper chats with Jake Kahana about focus work and distraction</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>41:30</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>We recorded this episode in Sep 2020 and we talked about Jake's work as a designer and creative director, the notion of focused work, why he started You're Better Than Brunch, and cofounding Caveday with Jeremy Redleaf and Molly Sonsteng.
Like so many of us working from home these days, you'll hear Jake's daughter waking up just after the introduction questions before we get into main discussion about focused work and distraction. We also talk about the 2017 University of Chicago study where they look at the effect of brain drain with smartphones — even when your phone is upside down on a table, even on airplane mode — and how it challenges our cognitive abilities. Did you know that Microsoft did a parallel study that showed that the average focus time in the office is 40 seconds?
Stay tuned after the outro music for a funny bit of tape asking about the background noise and a strangled pause from Skipper. Special Guest: Jake Kahana.
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    <![CDATA[<p>We recorded this episode in Sep 2020 and we talked about Jake&#39;s work as a designer and creative director, the notion of focused work, why he started You&#39;re Better Than Brunch, and cofounding Caveday with Jeremy Redleaf and Molly Sonsteng.</p>

<p>Like so many of us working from home these days, you&#39;ll hear Jake&#39;s daughter waking up just after the introduction questions before we get into main discussion about focused work and distraction. We also talk about the 2017 University of Chicago study where they look at the effect of brain drain with smartphones — even when your phone is upside down on a table, even on airplane mode — and how it challenges our cognitive abilities. Did you know that Microsoft did a parallel study that showed that the average focus time in the office is 40 seconds?</p>

<p>Stay tuned after the outro music for a funny bit of tape asking about the background noise and a strangled pause from Skipper.</p><p>Special Guest: Jake Kahana.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Parkinson&#39;s Law" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_law">Parkinson's Law</a></li><li><a title="Paul Jarvis" rel="nofollow" href="https://pjrvs.com/articles">Paul Jarvis</a></li><li><a title="Seth Godin" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.sethgodin.com">Seth Godin</a></li><li><a title="Derek Sivers" rel="nofollow" href="https://sive.rs">Derek Sivers</a></li><li><a title="Tristan Harris" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.tristanharris.com">Tristan Harris</a></li><li><a title="Tina Roth Eisenberg" rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/swissmiss">Tina Roth Eisenberg</a></li><li><a title="Jocelyn K. Glei" rel="nofollow" href="https://jkglei.com">Jocelyn K. Glei</a></li><li><a title="Fast Company article on Caveday" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.fastcompany.com/40405602/its-come-to-this-procrastination-nannies-are-now-a-thing">Fast Company article on Caveday</a></li><li><a title="Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi&#39;s TED talk on Flow" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/mihaly_csikszentmihalyi_flow_the_secret_to_happiness">Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's TED talk on Flow</a></li><li><a title="2017 University of Chicago study on smart phones" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/691462">2017 University of Chicago study on smart phones</a> &mdash; Even having your phone on your desk–even if it’s upside down even if it’s airplane mode– temporarily reduces your cognitive abilities. In other words, it makes you dumber.</li><li><a title="Microsoft study on focus time for work" rel="nofollow" href="https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/2858036.2858202">Microsoft study on focus time for work</a> &mdash; 40 seconds!</li><li><a title="Caveday on monotasking" rel="nofollow" href="https://medium.com/caveday/an-unexpected-benefit-of-monotasking-707bf9707e6d">Caveday on monotasking</a></li><li><a title="Linda Stone on continuous partial attention" rel="nofollow" href="https://lindastone.net/category/attention/continuous-continuous-partial-attention/">Linda Stone on continuous partial attention</a></li><li><a title="Jake Kahana" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.jakekahana.com">Jake Kahana</a></li><li><a title="Intro and outro song: &quot;Zombie Nation&quot; by Jose Travieso" rel="nofollow" href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Jose_Travieso/Free_Music_Sampler_-_FreeMixter">Intro and outro song: "Zombie Nation" by Jose Travieso</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>We recorded this episode in Sep 2020 and we talked about Jake&#39;s work as a designer and creative director, the notion of focused work, why he started You&#39;re Better Than Brunch, and cofounding Caveday with Jeremy Redleaf and Molly Sonsteng.</p>

<p>Like so many of us working from home these days, you&#39;ll hear Jake&#39;s daughter waking up just after the introduction questions before we get into main discussion about focused work and distraction. We also talk about the 2017 University of Chicago study where they look at the effect of brain drain with smartphones — even when your phone is upside down on a table, even on airplane mode — and how it challenges our cognitive abilities. Did you know that Microsoft did a parallel study that showed that the average focus time in the office is 40 seconds?</p>

<p>Stay tuned after the outro music for a funny bit of tape asking about the background noise and a strangled pause from Skipper.</p><p>Special Guest: Jake Kahana.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Parkinson&#39;s Law" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_law">Parkinson's Law</a></li><li><a title="Paul Jarvis" rel="nofollow" href="https://pjrvs.com/articles">Paul Jarvis</a></li><li><a title="Seth Godin" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.sethgodin.com">Seth Godin</a></li><li><a title="Derek Sivers" rel="nofollow" href="https://sive.rs">Derek Sivers</a></li><li><a title="Tristan Harris" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.tristanharris.com">Tristan Harris</a></li><li><a title="Tina Roth Eisenberg" rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/swissmiss">Tina Roth Eisenberg</a></li><li><a title="Jocelyn K. Glei" rel="nofollow" href="https://jkglei.com">Jocelyn K. Glei</a></li><li><a title="Fast Company article on Caveday" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.fastcompany.com/40405602/its-come-to-this-procrastination-nannies-are-now-a-thing">Fast Company article on Caveday</a></li><li><a title="Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi&#39;s TED talk on Flow" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/mihaly_csikszentmihalyi_flow_the_secret_to_happiness">Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's TED talk on Flow</a></li><li><a title="2017 University of Chicago study on smart phones" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/691462">2017 University of Chicago study on smart phones</a> &mdash; Even having your phone on your desk–even if it’s upside down even if it’s airplane mode– temporarily reduces your cognitive abilities. In other words, it makes you dumber.</li><li><a title="Microsoft study on focus time for work" rel="nofollow" href="https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/2858036.2858202">Microsoft study on focus time for work</a> &mdash; 40 seconds!</li><li><a title="Caveday on monotasking" rel="nofollow" href="https://medium.com/caveday/an-unexpected-benefit-of-monotasking-707bf9707e6d">Caveday on monotasking</a></li><li><a title="Linda Stone on continuous partial attention" rel="nofollow" href="https://lindastone.net/category/attention/continuous-continuous-partial-attention/">Linda Stone on continuous partial attention</a></li><li><a title="Jake Kahana" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.jakekahana.com">Jake Kahana</a></li><li><a title="Intro and outro song: &quot;Zombie Nation&quot; by Jose Travieso" rel="nofollow" href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Jose_Travieso/Free_Music_Sampler_-_FreeMixter">Intro and outro song: "Zombie Nation" by Jose Travieso</a></li></ul>]]>
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