Before we got into the main bit of the episode, Jen started with a critical framing question for Skipper: What do you want you and your audience to get out of our conversation? This is the kind of smart question that we've come to know Jen for and we're totally going to steal it and use it with each recording from now on.

We couldn't find a place for this bit in the episode itself, and we thought it'd be vital here on the first day of 2024. What's your intention for the year?